tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5759844.post1323809416525348934..comments2024-03-12T17:34:02.225-04:00Comments on NT Blog: Whatever happened to the Gospel of Jesus' Wife?Mark Goodacrehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05115370166754797529noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5759844.post-3048151197819506002013-12-20T07:54:07.247-05:002013-12-20T07:54:07.247-05:00I know of non scholars who have no idea that there...I know of non scholars who have no idea that there is an assessment the matter is a fake. Their personal religious beliefs have been affected. It is wrong to fail to clarify a published hoax that has been busted just to protect the prestige or sensibilities of the experts who give the hoax its imprimatur in the world-at-largeGraceful Deadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02252827175169641563noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5759844.post-36523742012687874532013-12-05T23:07:06.621-05:002013-12-05T23:07:06.621-05:00I'm fantasizing that the owner of the document...I'm fantasizing that the owner of the document is looking for a big payday from the History Channel. The document is worth a lot more as disputed than as fake.<br /><br />Dave LewisDave Lewishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18253324547888118609noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5759844.post-38665138856938389912013-12-05T23:06:43.726-05:002013-12-05T23:06:43.726-05:00I'm fantasizing that the owner of the document...I'm fantasizing that the owner of the document is looking for a big payday from the History Channel. The document is worth a lot more as disputed than as fake.<br /><br />Dave LewisDave Lewishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18253324547888118609noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5759844.post-1483672584383228662013-12-05T18:59:54.798-05:002013-12-05T18:59:54.798-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.Michael J. Hursthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18140523448996508475noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5759844.post-25197487046059228802013-12-05T12:29:54.569-05:002013-12-05T12:29:54.569-05:00I'll here post the same comment I posted on Dr...I'll here post the same comment I posted on Dr. Hurtado's post on this which I directed at Dr. Hurtado (I redacted a sentence accusing him of blogging in his underwear cause I wasn't sure he would get the reference but you can't be the only scholar who blogs in your underwear):<br /><br />Friends,<br />I think all of us know exactly what is going on with the fragment. Nothing. Mostly everyone knows it is a forgery and, yes, the three *world class* scholars who attached their names to it are hoping that the whole thing would go away. That Dr. Luijendijk called in “sick” at last year’s SBL is an indication that, due to the negative reaction after the initial reports, she did not want to discuss it much (however, I think she was also pregnant with twins at the time). I think Dr. King also failed to appear in Chicago. So I think they want to sweep it under the rug. And I don’t see much wrong with that. If it is a forgery, then I cannot conceive of any scholarly purpose for further questioning. I know that academia is not an arena where we are careful not to hurt anyone’s feelings, however, perhaps this time we can just let them off the hook on this. Was I the only one who felt a chill in the air when Ulrich Schmid brought it up in his SBL presentation with Dr. Bagnall sitting only feet away?<br /><br />I find it disingenuous that you would bring up this issue here on your blog. Did you approach either Dr. Bagnall or Dr. King or Dr. Luijendijk and ask them about this specifically at SBL? I know that you were in the same room as them on a number of occasions at SBL. Did you ask them for an update on the fragment? Day after day all three of them were with you in the conference center and you did not ask them. Why not? Why e-mail Dr. King’s defunct e-mail address when you could ask her in person? Was any one of these three scholars among the “several scholars who were in various ways directly involved in the analysis of the item last year” who you asked? You could have even directly asked Dr. Bagnall during the Q&A after his SBL presentation or Dr. Luijendijk after her presentation. But no one did. Are we too scared to ask them to their faces but would rather blog about it?<br /><br />As much as we are all interested in what happened to it, we all already know what happened to it and again, nothing scholarly can come out of it. We need not rub their faces in their mistakes. Perhaps a small press release by HTR or the Discovery Channel would be appropriate but we need not bother these scholars with these skeletons. These three world class scholars have much better things to do with their time than defend this past mistake. Perhaps we could all show a little clemency and let it go away. Then again, who knows but maybe it is “authentic” and all involved are preparing a grand reveal and are just building our suspense!Alan Taylor Farneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03921262331705982176noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5759844.post-30221893018994646422013-12-05T11:50:12.221-05:002013-12-05T11:50:12.221-05:00And while we're at it, could we get the Secret...And while we're at it, could we get the Secret Gospel of Mark original folio scanned it so more of us could put eyes on it?Joe Weakshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16379505860158377008noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5759844.post-63796900665563829942013-12-05T11:01:37.532-05:002013-12-05T11:01:37.532-05:00Dan Wallace (your "some apologist") has ...Dan Wallace (your "some apologist") has said as recently as a few months ago that such a fragment does still exist, and that details will eventually be published (not by him). Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5759844.post-55041111149385330902013-12-05T10:21:28.274-05:002013-12-05T10:21:28.274-05:00Speaking of lost fragments, what happened to the s...Speaking of lost fragments, what happened to the supposedly 1st C fragment of GMark that some apologist tried to bamboozle Ehrmann with in a debate a coupla years back now?Jens Knudsen (Sili)https://www.blogger.com/profile/14078875730565068352noreply@blogger.com