tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5759844.post4461988183027815295..comments2024-03-21T14:59:20.729-04:00Comments on NT Blog: The Gospel of Jesus’ Wife: “Patchwork Forgery” in Coptic . . . and English (Recap)Mark Goodacrehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05115370166754797529noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5759844.post-26729378435697717322015-09-02T09:44:37.698-04:002015-09-02T09:44:37.698-04:00Yes. Thanks, Mark.Yes. Thanks, Mark.Stephen Goransonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15300499142977120746noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5759844.post-78376452145783688222015-09-02T07:06:29.835-04:002015-09-02T07:06:29.835-04:00So someone writes an email to an academic wise per...So someone writes an email to an academic wise person saying that he has a photograph of an old manuscript about Jesus having a wife. Others in the academic community rise up in indignation and research all the reasons why this is false and cannot be so. Amid the developing rumours and innuendos of intelligent people, an air of respectability is given to the subject. The wise academic, whose sympathies appear to be opposite to the indignant ones, encourages the opposite view. Many question is it really true that Jesus had a wife? Surely, they say, if this man ever existed, there is a high probability that he had a wife, and children for that matter.<br /><br />If this 'research' says anything, it tells me how much of history was created in the first century. geoffhudson.blogspot.comhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14724916983698195467noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5759844.post-63353788136907763302015-09-01T11:45:49.144-04:002015-09-01T11:45:49.144-04:00Thanks, Stephen. That's an interesting discrep...Thanks, Stephen. That's an interesting discrepancy. July 9 2010, though, rather than 19? Also there's a difference between the two versions of Sabar's article. The second version does not date it "the same day".<br /><br />17 Sept, http://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/the-inside-story-of-a-controversial-new-text-about-jesus-41078791/#UOeFcLb5SYwcpv7F.99<br /><br />"On July 9, 2010, during summer break, an e-mail from a stranger arrived in King’s Harvard in-box. Because of her prominence, she gets a steady trickle of what she calls “kooky” e-mails: a woman claiming to be Mary Magdalene, a man with a code he says unlocks the mysteries of the Bible.<br /><br />This e-mail looked more serious, but King remained skeptical. The writer identified himself as a manuscript collector. He said he had come into the possession of a Gnostic gospel that appeared to contain an “argument” between Jesus and a disciple about Magdalene. Would she take a look at some photographs?<br /><br />King replied that she needed more information: What was its date and provenance? The man responded the same day, saying he’d purchased it in 1997 from a German-American collector who acquired it in the 1960s in Communist East Germany. He sent along an electronic file of photographs and an unsigned translation with the bombshell phrase, “Jesus said this to them: My wife…” (King would refine the translation as “Jesus said to them, ‘My wife … ’”)"<br /><br />November 2012, http://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/update-the-reaction-to-karen-kings-gospel-discovery-84250942/#3dEfZ880AG9Vcr5J.99<br /><br />"On July 9, 2010, during summer break, an e-mail from a stranger arrived in King’s in-box. Because of her prominence, she gets a steady trickle of what she calls “kooky” e-mails: a woman claiming to be Mary Magdalene, a man with a code unlocking the mysteries of the Bible.<br /><br />This one looked more serious. The writer identified himself as a manuscript collector. He said he had acquired a Gnostic gospel that appeared to contain an “argument” between Jesus and a disciple about Magdalene. Would she take a look at some photographs?<br /><br />King asked for more information: What was its date and provenance? The man replied that he purchased it in 1997 from a Berliner who had obtained it in Communist East Germany in the 1960s and later immigrated to the United States. (In a later e-mail, however, the story seemed to change slightly, with the collector saying that the papyri had been in the previous owner’s possession—or his family’s—“prior to WWII.”) The collector sent an electronic file of photographs and an unsigned translation with the bombshell phrase about Jesus’ wife."<br /><br />Mark Goodacrehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05115370166754797529noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5759844.post-23337535322528145072015-09-01T07:48:25.497-04:002015-09-01T07:48:25.497-04:00According to the Sept. 17, 2012 Smithsonian Magazi...According to the Sept. 17, 2012 Smithsonian Magazine article ("The Inside Story...") narration, the current owner emailed Prof. King on July 19, 2010. She asked for additional information. "The man responded the same day, saying he’d purchased it in 1997 from a German-American collector who acquired it in the 1960s in Communist East Germany. He sent along an electronic file of photographs and an unsigned translation with the bombshell phrase, “Jesus said this to them: My wife…” (King would refine the translation as “Jesus said to them, ‘My wife … ’”)"<br />I bring this up because it is another case of differing dates in the reporting. The Harvard website now gives the date of the "translation" as (received in?) June 2011, not July 19, 2010.<br />This discrepancy could be added to the "Tentative Chronology on Coptic "Jesus Wife' fragment"<br />http://ntweblog.blogspot.com/2014/04/tentative-chronology-on-coptic-jesus.htmlStephen Goransonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15300499142977120746noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5759844.post-43765736262615529122015-08-31T11:07:44.140-04:002015-08-31T11:07:44.140-04:00It is exactly research, Geoff.It is exactly research, Geoff.Stephen Goransonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15300499142977120746noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5759844.post-64226561952680750752015-08-31T09:39:54.663-04:002015-08-31T09:39:54.663-04:00I just wonder how long the academic community are ...I just wonder how long the academic community are going to keep this up? Is Karen King deliberately stirring things up? The forger, whoever he/she is, must be laughing up his/her sleeve, thinking what next could he/she throw into the fray. The effort in refuting the claims isn't exactly research, is it? geoffhudson.blogspot.comhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14724916983698195467noreply@blogger.com