tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5759844.post5811710079008210899..comments2024-03-21T14:59:20.729-04:00Comments on NT Blog: Do the lines in the "fish" head spell out Jonah?Mark Goodacrehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05115370166754797529noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5759844.post-9289733171994892382012-04-20T18:53:01.668-04:002012-04-20T18:53:01.668-04:00Thanks for your comments, James. I'm afraid I ...Thanks for your comments, James. I'm afraid I don't find the YONAH reading persuasive, even with the new picture. I agree that in this picture the "nun" looks unbroken, which contrasts with all the other pictures so far released. In other respects, though, the image is less friendly to the new YONAH interpretation, e.g. the line above the "yod" is more pronounced and makes the "yod" stand out much less clearly; similarly the "waw" now extends even further. The new front leg of the stick figure (on the "heh") is also now more clearly disconnected from the body. So I think what you gain in this picture with the alleged nun you lose with the other features.<br /><br />I think there is an analogy here with the cluster of names in Talpiot Tomb A. Apparent matches are celebrated but non-matches are not allowed to compromise the claim. So here, apparent matches with a YONAH outline are celebrated while the non-matches are either ignored or integrated into the stick man. Of course I will look forward to seeing Prof. Charlesworth's article when it is ready.Mark Goodacrehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05115370166754797529noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5759844.post-75472137805995318702012-04-20T18:51:02.043-04:002012-04-20T18:51:02.043-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.Mark Goodacrehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05115370166754797529noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5759844.post-29662710374573078882012-04-20T16:40:23.330-04:002012-04-20T16:40:23.330-04:00"Maybe this will help."
Lovely to see t..."Maybe this will help."<br /><br />Lovely to see that you're still optimistic.Jens Knudsen (Sili)https://www.blogger.com/profile/14078875730565068352noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5759844.post-72023390951676124212012-04-20T10:52:15.828-04:002012-04-20T10:52:15.828-04:00The lines at the bottom are not 'random' -...The lines at the bottom are not 'random' - they are obviously deliberately drawn. I just can't conclude that the purpose of the lines was some sort of anthropomorphic/typographic logo of letters (which is what you now appear to be arguing - that it is BOTH a stick-man anthropomorphic image made of poorly executed letters).<br /><br />So the lines are not random, and nor are they letters (and certainly not the letters you're trying to force them to be). The do appear to be decoration of some sort, but of what sort we don't know (although we do know that in other time periods (and perhaps at this time also), many amphora, kraters, and hydrias had linear geometric designs at their bases).<br /><br /><a href="http://robertcargill.com/2012/04/20/when-is-a-nun-not-a-nun/" rel="nofollow">Maybe this will help.</a>Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01139547360019959563noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5759844.post-42011406873229300852012-04-20T09:56:46.322-04:002012-04-20T09:56:46.322-04:00Trying again...as I messed up my second post above...Trying again...as I messed up my second post above...sorry.<br /><br />Mark, on the lines of the stick figure I am open and I think there is more than one possibility, but I do think our engraver intended to represent the fish head, the name YONAH, and the man coming out--certainly the head, but I think the body as well. I posted something on this on the ASOR blog. What I am hoping is that rather than pointing our contradictions, which I see more as alternatives, we try together to see what we can make of this, at least those of us who do not see these lines as random and meaningless. For those who do, there is little to say.James D. Taborhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18137109228365359971noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5759844.post-15173487675043913292012-04-20T08:21:38.071-04:002012-04-20T08:21:38.071-04:00Thanks Mark. I think Prof. Charlesworth is prepari...Thanks Mark. I think Prof. Charlesworth is preparing a more extensive article that will deal with the letters and various parallels. I have done my own work over the past week and find them "crystal clear" as I said. The "nun" is not broken. There are some white splotches on the ossuary surface in our close up photos and one of them is at the juncture, which might make it look like the line is broken, but it does intersect. It might have been made with two strokes, which would not be unusual, but it is connected. I will post another photo on my latest blog post right now that I think will make this clear. It is untouched, right from the HiDef camera. Assuming this is correct can you read the word YONAH quite clearly? Don't you find that rather amazing for random lines that mean nothing?James D. Taborhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18137109228365359971noreply@blogger.com