tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5759844.post6115924045191223599..comments2024-03-21T14:59:20.729-04:00Comments on NT Blog: How the "half-fish" became a vase and why it mattersMark Goodacrehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05115370166754797529noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5759844.post-82675023555084016522012-04-22T11:44:57.933-04:002012-04-22T11:44:57.933-04:00Thanks, Gao and Mark!Thanks, Gao and Mark!Greg Careyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07336368491090442343noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5759844.post-40470279666809411962012-04-17T15:56:44.846-04:002012-04-17T15:56:44.846-04:00Thanks for these comments. Greg: on (1) they see ...Thanks for these comments. Greg: on (1) they see the border of the ossuary as representing "land", perhaps even mountains (triangular shapes on the border) and so the fish is spitting out Jonah onto the border of the ossuary. I am not persuaded by this interpretation myself. On (2), see Gao's link above. See also Bob Cargill's post about it here:<br /><br />http://robertcargill.com/2012/03/15/possible-solution-to-the-seaweed-wrapped-stick-figure-head-in-the-jonah-ossuary-iconography/<br /><br />Scott: good question. They want to make the "half-fish" part of the story that the ossuary tells, so presumably this is the fish now without Jonah. Since I don't think it looks anything like a fish -- the border has the same design as the image (little triangles) -- I think a half-vase is more likely. My guess is that the artist simply didn't finish it.Mark Goodacrehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05115370166754797529noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5759844.post-34213198390628315032012-04-17T14:33:46.765-04:002012-04-17T14:33:46.765-04:00Greg, I think this will be helpful for determining...Greg, I think this will be helpful for determining what's at the bottom of the vessel:<br /><br />http://aramaicdesigns.blogspot.com/2012/03/aspect-adjustment-on-jonah-ossuary.htmlGaohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01202399943175802972noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5759844.post-14193833304532323252012-04-17T12:40:56.238-04:002012-04-17T12:40:56.238-04:00The utter silence from the scientific adviser, the...The utter silence from the scientific adviser, the archaeologist Rami Arav, the archaeologists from the IAA not to mention the Rabbi who gave them cover is deafening.Skeptichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08997457019628016315noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5759844.post-62366999671280843452012-04-17T12:26:41.901-04:002012-04-17T12:26:41.901-04:00As for (2), that has already been explained as an ...As for (2), that has already been explained as an unguentum. But a quick google shows that some amphora have a protrusion on the bottom as well.Jens Knudsen (Sili)https://www.blogger.com/profile/14078875730565068352noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5759844.post-74727256095275309282012-04-17T10:40:13.351-04:002012-04-17T10:40:13.351-04:00One question would be: Are you more likely to port...One question would be: Are you more likely to portray just the tail of your fish on the end of your ossuary or the mouth of your "vase"? Would the fish-tail be emblematic enough of the Sign of Jonah? Or should you have preferred to go with the business end of the fish?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5759844.post-90176773793610653102012-04-17T09:34:52.638-04:002012-04-17T09:34:52.638-04:00Two questions, Mark, from someone who's just c...Two questions, Mark, from someone who's just catching up. (1) Since when does the Jonah fish -- or any fish -- swim downward? (2) On the other hand, if the image represents a vessel, why would it have a little knob on the bottom?Greg Careyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07336368491090442343noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5759844.post-35340713726079435372012-04-16T22:36:59.185-04:002012-04-16T22:36:59.185-04:00Thanks for this Dr. Goodacer. It seems like we hav...Thanks for this Dr. Goodacer. It seems like we have another example of Dr. Tabor and Simcha attempting to divert attention from how thin their argument is. But then I might just be suffering theological trauma.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17033142025637646832noreply@blogger.com