tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5759844.post6214578667506877536..comments2024-03-21T14:59:20.729-04:00Comments on NT Blog: Jimmy Carter, Jesus and "the Matthew effect"Mark Goodacrehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05115370166754797529noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5759844.post-25520077270930544882014-11-02T05:34:41.427-05:002014-11-02T05:34:41.427-05:00I think it was Abraham Lincoln who first observed ...I think it was Abraham Lincoln who first observed that many quotations on the internet were often attributed to the wrong celebrity.sacdtodvdahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16775062594920785114noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5759844.post-20245876392211601692014-02-26T01:50:27.720-05:002014-02-26T01:50:27.720-05:00"Forgive them father, for I have sinned"...<br />"Forgive them father, for I have sinned" - Kurt CobainShayne Ohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12746729406760490045noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5759844.post-78766570466968800992014-02-13T16:07:07.148-05:002014-02-13T16:07:07.148-05:00Correction to my post to correct typo *Fugelsang&#...Correction to my post to correct typo *Fugelsang's* quote.V Andersonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15635703507350543169noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5759844.post-20976888014469676282014-02-13T14:49:23.638-05:002014-02-13T14:49:23.638-05:00Thank you for explaining this phenomenon, now ramp...Thank you for explaining this phenomenon, now rampant on the internet, of misattributing quotations.<br /><br />It's always existed, but the pace of the misattributions is mind boggling.<br /><br />I appreciate your thoughtful post. Thank you for giving us Goodacre's full quote.<br /><br />Human beings have always had 30 second attention spans. Not helpful for our souls.<br /><br />Again thank you for your research and writing.V Andersonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15635703507350543169noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5759844.post-39809282526130850612014-02-13T13:20:03.370-05:002014-02-13T13:20:03.370-05:00I actually read that quote in a blog post Fugelsan...I actually read that quote in a blog post Fugelsang wrote for the website current.com. The site is now defunct, so the original post is gone, but it shows up here, as the May 31, 2013 entry: http://timstriangletribune.wordpress.com/tag/john-fugelsang/ <br /><br />The quote is in the last paragraph, and the entire post is well worth a read. treehuggerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02324369812369096503noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5759844.post-8897099122028326512013-10-26T07:03:22.382-04:002013-10-26T07:03:22.382-04:00In terms of the Carter attribution of the Fugelsan...In terms of the Carter attribution of the Fugelsang quote, the quote is consistent with Carter's expressed attitudes and ideas, so it is easy to believe he said that. Regardless, no matter who said it, the statement stands on its own merits, or it doesn't. Those who like it will agree, even not knowing who said it; those who don't like it will reject the thought, regardless of the perceived authority of the speaker.Douglas Asburyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10662339252668821815noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5759844.post-61788037919956295242013-10-13T14:37:16.749-04:002013-10-13T14:37:16.749-04:00That was the point of my post, J!That was the point of my post, J!Mark Goodacrehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05115370166754797529noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5759844.post-47166973191405933442013-10-13T14:24:35.238-04:002013-10-13T14:24:35.238-04:00Jimmy Carter never said that.Jimmy Carter never said that.Jhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09858137648472741606noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5759844.post-4017375109399052712013-10-11T16:13:34.669-04:002013-10-11T16:13:34.669-04:00We do have biblical warrant for our role in "... We do have biblical warrant for our role in "helping the poor".<br /><br /> It's based on 3 ideas.<br /><br /> 1) Yahweh commanded individual Jews to help the poor, not His theocratic state. <br /><br /> 2) Jesus simply repeated these ideas. <br /> As God, He chooses leaders anyway and always has according to Daniel 4. <br /><br /> Certainly God chose ANE Israel's leaders. As God, Jesus certainly does vote.<br /><br /> 3) Caesar is not Christ's agent beyond crime control, the NT in fact is somewhat a hostile dialectic between Christ and Caesar. <br /><br /> This is why Carter's views are flawed, IMO. Helping the poor is OUR role, not Caesar's. Caesar is often the enemy of Christ.Patrickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02746881721513102241noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5759844.post-15847887897667998802013-10-11T09:34:17.499-04:002013-10-11T09:34:17.499-04:00I think that the quote about "planting a tree...I think that the quote about "planting a tree", so often attributed to Luther, is about trust (faith).<br /><br />God can handle the big issues in the universe. I will do the things that I have been called to do. Be a "good" steward of His gifts.Steve Martinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13251554325064300307noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5759844.post-68633807706986029702013-10-05T13:00:18.479-04:002013-10-05T13:00:18.479-04:00It is strange how the simple, basic sayings and id...It is strange how the simple, basic sayings and ideas get trampled upon. geoffhudson.blogspot.comhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14724916983698195467noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5759844.post-41151944136633117032013-10-05T10:04:45.515-04:002013-10-05T10:04:45.515-04:00The tree comments may be influenced by a saying at...The tree comments may be influenced by a saying attributed (in Avot d'Rebbi Natan) to Yochanan ben Zakkai: "If you are holding a sapling in your hand and someone tells you, 'Come quickly, the Messiah is here,' first finish planting the tree and then go greet the Messiah."Stephen Goransonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15300499142977120746noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5759844.post-31248363164479430502013-10-04T13:34:10.275-04:002013-10-04T13:34:10.275-04:00Interesting example of the Matthew effect, Mark.
...Interesting example of the Matthew effect, Mark.<br /><br />Another fascinating example of it I've seen quite often is how a quote regarding the environment is often attributed to Martin Luther. It's all over the internet and even in print (by professors). The quote is usually worded, "If the world was to end tomorrow, I would plant a tree today" or "If he [Luther] knew Jesus was coming again tomorrow..." or "If he were to die tomorrow...."<br /><br />But the best I can tell, the quote originated from Stephen Girard, the wealthy early-19th century French-born banker who lived in Philadelphia. At least in the American Daily Advertiser (Feb 1, 1832), he made the following statement, "When Death comes for me he will find me busy, unless I am asleep in bed. If I thought I was going to die to-morrow I should plant a tree, nevertheless, to-day...."<br /><br />And what's interesting is that not only is this quote not from Martin Luther, it's not really about the environment either. It' about industry and hard work. But on the internet and in print, it's attributed to Martin Luther about the environment.<br /><br />Well, maybe I should go plant a tree anyway. :-)Jeff Catehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07210032982797709183noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5759844.post-30054150068008445132013-10-04T12:59:56.751-04:002013-10-04T12:59:56.751-04:00The "Carter" version may be shorter and ...The "Carter" version may be shorter and terser, but it also has the feature that it fits better into an internet meme without making the font size too small. Brevity and terseness become much greater virtues in this case than in the one of a first-century evangelist who has 18-20,000 words to play with.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5759844.post-89470778023263966692013-10-04T10:06:49.477-04:002013-10-04T10:06:49.477-04:00Is the Matthew Effect similar to the O'Reilly ...Is the Matthew Effect similar to the O'Reilly Factor?Anthony Le Donnehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01282792648606976883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5759844.post-423305572234833932013-10-04T10:03:24.236-04:002013-10-04T10:03:24.236-04:00You're distinguishing between the Carter of hi...You're distinguishing between the Carter of history and the Carter of faith.Ken Olsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15306662794364203693noreply@blogger.com